Carl Weber, Nikaya D. Brown Jones, and Trey Haley are behind the scenes forces behind The Black Hamptons and The Family Business, which both air on BET+. The Family Business is going into its fourth season, while The Black Hamptons is making its debut. Both shows have different vibes but the energy is all about the drama and the twists and turns.

Here, we chatted with Carl Weber about his creations, along with Trey Haley, the director, and Nikaya D. Brown Jones, showrunner about how to translate books to screen and keeping the fans engaged.

BET.com: Talk about what  it takes to bring a Carl Weber book to life and to translate that to TV for loyal fans of the books but then viewers who might just be discovering the universe.

Carl Weber: In all honesty, the most important part is Carl Weber is not just writing the book, he’s writing the scripts too. I think it's really important because I'm a person who understands and knows the characters better than anybody else, so making sure that the right story lines are put into the shows. It's very important to me. We have a saying, “It's in the book!”and when you can do that you can keep the fan base happy, and unlike a lot of other productions and shows and stuff like that, we have a fan base of the books that are the backbone to the show. And that's very  important because they'll get on the internet and social media and they'll talk about the book and people would say, “I saw that on the show” and it stirs other people up and we're more so a little different than some of the other shows. Our shows are more grassroots because of the books that you know, and that really pleases me and seems to make the fans extremely happy.

Nikaya D. Brown Jones: It's been a blessing to take this ride with Carl because he definitely already has a fanbase. Our characters already have a fanbase and I think that's nice for  when we're casting to pick people that actually embody the characters as you're reading it and we are very blessed to have Ernie and Valerie and Vanessa and Lammann  and elease and, javicia  and goes on to play these characters and bring them to life and where fans of the characters as well. So it's important for us. One of the things that we talked about earlier is that bet gives us and we love BET  because they give us the voice and the ability to be authentic in our storytelling and they respect the books to their respective characters too. And that's why we always like, “It’s in the book!” when it’s like. “Where did  this come from?” and they support you. You know, us having a voice for the culture and never watering it down and playing it down.

Trey Haley: Bringing this to life, being able to take this from a book to a script to the screen and hopefully attaching images to people, and when you read a book, you come up with the image in your head of what you see the story to be versus when you created it. Now we're showing it to you. A lot of times we want to make sure we do our best too. I think sitting with Carl, hearing him explain a lot of the way the book in the world that we're in, doing our best to really bring us to screen, so that people can get it out of their head and actually see it come to life and take this journey. And then also, as Carl always says, giving them little surprises that they didn't see too, that make them make it a little fresh from the book and make it a more different journey, visually. And with BET support allowing us to have the freedom to create this in a way that is as authentic as we can to the book is always something we don't take for granted.

BET.com: I just left the cast of Black Hamptons, and Vanessa said something interesting.She said she experienced the differences between the actual Black Hamptons and Martha's Vineyard in how these communities get down. So what are your takes on that? What are some of the differences and  how did those differences translate to the creation of Black Hamptons?

Carl Weber: I’m in the Black Hamptons right now. It's interesting that people are really the same despite money, but the backdrop just makes, a lot of times, you think that they should do things or act in certain ways and they don't. It’s the old saying, “You can take the girl out of Brooklyn but you can’t take the Brooklyn out of the girl.” Well, that's kind of the way the Hamptons and Martha's Vineyard are. As human beings, we like to see train wrecks. We just don't want it to be our trainwrecks. So that's kind of the direction that Black Hamptons is going in and will continue to go in, but in a very affluent way. So the drama continues, I promise you.

NDBJ: We wanted to make sure that these characters, although they have money, that they're still human beings and people because a lot of times, people will create shows and they'll put people with money so elevated that you can't even relate to them, and we know that that's not the case. It’s like more money, more problems, but at the same time they still have family, they still have values and still have loyalty. I think that's one of the things that goes through both Black Hamptons and The Family Business, is that no matter what's going on, no matter the destruction going on outside the family, or even inside the family, at the end of the day, this family is going to win and that was important to us — not only generational wealth, but loyalty, support, and family values.

TH: I also think there's a perception of what the Hamptons is. A lot of times you'll hear about athletes going to do deals in the Hamptons. [The perception] is that they dont l go to Martha’s Vineyard, they go to the Hamptons to do these deals. With the Hamptons, you think about deal-making and big business. Some of the biggest Billionaires in the world did have private beaches in the Hamptons. So there’s the fact that you have a general idea of the Hamptons, but then, there's this what makes this story unique. And I think what people will learn and find out more and more, is that Sag Harbor is a historical landmark in the Black Hamptons. This is a real place and this is not just a fictitious world that we're creating, but it's placed in the real world where we do have true history, and land of our own, so to speak, right in the Black Hamptons.

BET: I want to go back to what Carl said about how you can take the girl out of Brooklyn, but you can't take Brooklyn out of the girl, because of Blac Chyna’s character. She's new to acting alongside veterans. Her character is from Brooklyn. She is being judged for her background and how she looks much like in real life. So tell me about working with her and getting her used to making the transition to acting and being in front of the camera from a non-reality TV perspective.

CW: I'm very protective of Black Chyna. All that other stuff that goes on in her life or when she comes on the set, you know these guys are grown adults but they're my children in a manner of speaking as a showrunner, and so I try to keep her personal stuff away. The only thing I want her to concentrate on is lines and getting her over to Trey so he can get the best he can get out of her.

NDBJ: And for me as a showrunner from day one, we've known her manager for a long time. And when we were thinking about this fish out of water character, her name came up, and it was like, she was perfect. She was perfect because she knows this world. She knows the judgment and how to rise above it. And Trey, and the actors that surrounded her like Mike Merrill, her love interest, were very giving and made sure her beats and her moments were authentic and they were, and that was important to us for the world to see the greatness that she is and get an opportunity to see her in a different light. And she did an amazing job and we're very proud of her.

TH: And truth be told, she did audition for this role. This wasn't just given, there were other people that were considered for this before she was even brought up. And when she was brought up we thought it was a great idea to consider her. And when she auditioned, she was passionate. She came with her hair and make up done, and she came in with her audition tape, and then with meeting her and talking to her, it made sense. All of it fell into place really well on set. She was always professional and we gave her that space to feel free and not feel judged and have the support around her.  Mike, and Elise really sat down with her. They had times where they were sitting there half the day, just rehearsing and talking to make her feel comfortable and involved with the project and that she was a part of this world just as much as everybody else, so it was great.

BET: When it comes to the scope of this TV universe, you have these dynamic families on The Black Hamptons and The Family Business where it’s The Britton’s versus the Johnson’s and then you have the Duncans versus everybody. But if you had to pit these families against each other. Who do you think is the baddest?

NDBJ: Right now it’s still the Duncans for me, because we’re in our fourth season and they’re bad to the bone. But that may change as we get into more seasons of The Black Hamptons.

TH: I think they all bring their different elements to the table, but I will say this, I'll be interested in seeing Chippy [Valerie Pettiford] and Carolyn [Vanessa Bell Calloway] sitting at the table because let me tell you something!

CW: How fun would it be to do a crossover movie or episodes with all three families? It would be something really special but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's just enjoy the fact that we're going to have both shows on and I'm extremely excited. It's like a dream come true, two shows on the same night, drama, drama, drama!

TH: It gives people an experience. They can watch The Family Business and jump right over and watch The Black Hamptons. I think people are going to go get a great experience of two different worlds, two different energies. You get this bright beach world and you get the Duncan world where it's just edgy and this season is full of surprises.